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TSA searches are fair TSA searches are wrong
Debate Score:22
Arguments:22
Total Votes:22
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 TSA searches are fair (13)
 
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4th Amendment-Unlawful Searches & Seizures (TSA Searches)

TSA searches are fair

Side Score: 13
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TSA searches are wrong

Side Score: 9
1 point

Opening Statement:

Imagine the devastating airplane attacks and the destruction they caused like the 9/11 attack. Hundred and thousands have died from incidents like these. Now imagine that attacks like these could’ve been prevented. Well, they actually could have been prevented with the use of Advanced Imaging Technology. Then why weren’t they used? Because of concerns for privacy over concerns for safety.

The TSA should be allowed to used Advanced Imaging Technology to keep flights safe. This is because AIT can detect the non-metallic weapons and liquid explosives that have been used, the Supreme Court has declared this constitutional, and because this has been proven to be successful as the number of airplane hijacking incidents since 9/11 has significantly decreased due to the use of AIT.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Support:

A TSA screener is used to look for objects on a screen shaded differently from the body to find suspicious objects. The scanners plan to strengthen security to spot plastic and ceramic weapons and explosives that managed to avoid metal detectors, which are the biggest threat to the people’s safety.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

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Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Argument 1:

In 2001, on September 11, the World Trade Center towers were destroyed by planes that were hijacked by terrorists. 2,977 people died in the attack. The terrorists took over the plane using plastic box cutters. In 2006, there were more than 10 cases of people targeting airplanes with liquid explosives. In 2009, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempted to ignite explosives in his underwear. Although some of these attacks failed, the others caused massive death tolls to people on board and to the areas where the plane was crashed. The plastic box cutters, liquid explosives, and the explosives hidden in odd places could’ve all been prevented with Advanced Imaging Technology. All those lives could’ve been saved with the use of this.

Side: TSA searches are fair
Ario_S(6) Disputed
1 point

That was one of the first times there was a terrorists attack that big happened and people were caught off guard. Now there is no need to scan peoples body and invade them when their is a lot more security and awareness of what happened. Now they have a lot more security and checks on the pilot and things like metal detectors. Doing a full body scan on everyone even without suspicion is excessive.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
Ian_J(7) Disputed
1 point

They had metal detectors for 9/11 too. Those didn't stop the terrorists from sneaking plastic knives on the plane. AIT scanners can detect these knives and other things that standard metal detectors can't. If it weren't for these scanners, terrorists could still sneak on plastic knives or liquid explosives.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Argument 2:

There have been multiple cases of people complaining about this system as a “breach of privacy and the 4th Amendment.” However, this case has gone through the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court has declared AIT constitutional. This is because they said it’s an “administrative search” which is for the safety of the country.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

support:

If privacy or health is a concern, it shouldn’t be. There are two types of these scanners, backscatter and millimeter wave. Both of these methods either use very low and unharmful radiation or no radiation at all. Additionally, both methods only give a general outline of the person so security can detect weapons or harmful things without breaching privacy.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point
Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Argument 3:

Since the 9/11 incident, security has increased, and the number of hijackings decreased, which means the security is effective. There has been 26 incidents in 2000, 10 incident in 2002, 9 incident in 2003, 4 incident in 2004, and only 1 incident in 2005. It has been around 1 incident per year since 2005, showing that the use of AIT has proven to be successful.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Closing Statement:

AIT can detect the non-metallic weapons and liquid explosives that have been used, the Supreme Court has declared this constitutional, as you can see, AIT scanners have proven to be very successful and can protect many lives from airplane hijacking. The security is there, and now all we need to do accept its use.

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Opening Statement: The 4th amendment The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Although some people believe that they don’t need to always follow that amendment and they just go and can falsely accuse someone. Someone people think because they have a higher position they can force you to get someone information. There have been many cases where the police or government have broken this amendment not knowing that they could get in trouble for violating that law.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
1 point

1st Argument:

The Ground Zero Mosque would be like a victory monument. Since the 9/11 attack was made by Al-Qaeda in the name of Islam, building the center would be assuming that the attacked land is claimed by the Muslims. There is even more evidence related to the Ground Zero Mosque being a victory ground. The center was going to be named the Corboda House. Corboda is a city in Spain which was conquered by the Muslims. The name “Corboda House” symbolizes the victory the Muslims had in Spain and comparing it to the 9/11 attack.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
1 point

Argument 1: In the court case where they arrested this girl she had a case that the cops were violating the amendment and they shouldn’t be allowed to do that. Just because they had suspicion of her smuggling drugs it doesn't give them the right to barge into the boyfriends house and arrest her there. Because maybe the boyfriend didn't know so it gave them no right to go into his house and invade his house.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
Ian_J(7) Disputed
1 point

However, this isn't related specifically to the AIT scanners. There have been cases where people have complained about the AIT scanners but the Supreme Court has declared these scanners constitutional.

https://www.wired.com/2011/07/court-approves-body-scanners/

Side: TSA searches are fair
1 point

Argument 2: Apple has agreed with their customers that it was unreasonable to unlock someones phone without their consent. The FBI had suspicion that someone was committing a crime and they found his phone but it had a password. They went to apple saying that they need to unlock it to see his information but Apple said no and that they have a commitment with their customers not to invade their privacy.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
Ian_J(7) Disputed
1 point

However, unlocking a person's phone doesn't relate to the scanners. IPhone searches were unconstitutional, and that is one part of search and seizure, but the scanners are a different part, and those have been declared constitutional. Your argument states that this search and seizure is unconstitutional, but the scanners are a different type of search and seizure and have been declare constitutional.

Side: TSA searches are fair
Ario_S(6) Disputed
1 point

However not everything is about TSA scanners this case right here about they talk about how the FBI wanted to unlock the persons phone but Apple said no and that they made a commitment not to unlock peoples phone without their consent. The 4th amendment is more than just searching people.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
1 point

Argument 3: Another problem is cops abusing their power and weapons. In one instant a man was pulled over and asked for his driver’s license. The man didn’t have it but was an army sergeant and showed him that.

The cop made him get out of the car and arrested him. The man asked for an explanation but was then tased multiple times by the officer.

Side: TSA searches are wrong
1 point

Closing statement:

To conclude all of this TSA searches should not be allowed because they are violating people's privacy and they do not comment peoples wishes of being patted down and touched and also for many other reasons as listed above

Side: TSA searches are wrong