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The mosque should be built The mosque should not be built
Debate Score:31
Arguments:33
Total Votes:31
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 The mosque should be built (9)
 
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1st Amendment - Freedom of Religion (Ground Zero Mosque)

The mosque should be built

Side Score: 9
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The mosque should not be built

Side Score: 22
1 point

Opening statement

Not all muslims are terrorists, and not all terrorists are muslim. Not allowing this center would be a huge 1st amendment offence, and a personal insult to all muslims.

Side: The mosque should be built
1 point

Argument 1:

Not building this Islamic Center was a huge problem for many muslims that caused them to be deported and/or leave the country as they had no comfort in the United States. Over 20,000 Muslim families were forced to leave the country as they didn't have a home and a place to feel safe, which would of been the center. The loss of more than 20,000 clearly affected the city just as much as Muslims as it means 20,000 potential jobs and society aid was lost.

Side: The mosque should be built
ahmeds(10) Disputed
1 point

The people aren't discriminating nor segregating the Muslims. There are over 100 mosques in New York, not to mention one 4 blocks away from Ground Zero. They would not go to such an extent as to leaving America altogether. This would be a minor inconvenience at the least.

Side: The mosque should not be built
azzathanveer(8) Disputed
1 point

The muslims have over thousands of mosque's build in the US so what made them feel so unsafe if they could have just built it in a different place?

Side: The mosque should not be built
GuiM(7) Clarified
1 point

It was a center that was supposed to be built that was wrongfully canceled, not a mosque. Plus, that area was the only area with the correct building measurements and price.

Side: The mosque should be built
shayanne(5) Disputed
1 point

There are other places where they could build a mosque it doesn't necessary have to be where Muslims have committed a crime and murdered hundreds of people. It would be very insensitive to the survivors of the attack and the friends and family of the people who lost their lives in the attack. Also, the attacks were committed by Muslim terrorists and allowing for this Muslim community center to be built will certainly spread radical Islamist ideas or thoughts, and further endanger our security and well being.

Side: The mosque should not be built
zainabh(4) Disputed
1 point

The muslims have said many times that the terrorists that are doing these horrible things do not actually follow Islam, but in fact just say that they are doing it in the name of Islam.Even though it is a very memorable sight, and is a very sensitive area for many, the building will not be “hovering” over ground zero, as it is not very tall, and not in ground zero itself.

Side: The mosque should be built
azzathanveer(8) Disputed
1 point

Think about it from a Muslim's point of view. How much hatred they would get. The community center's purpose was to bring safety to Muslim's but they would probably get double the amount of hatred due to the location they chose. NOt only are we helping the Americans, but Muslims too.

Side: The mosque should not be built
1 point

Argument 2:

Building this mosque, would do american muslims a lot of justice. 75% of american muslims either has had, or known someone who has had anti-muslim discrimination since the 9/11 attacks. Muslims have lost about 40% of their business post since 9/11, and 18,000 muslims have been deported. Overall, about 500,000 muslims have been affected by these attacks.

Side: The mosque should be built
azzathanveer(8) Disputed
1 point

Affected in what way, discrimination? Look at the others who have been affected, 2,977 people dead from this attack. Think about how many families had lost loved ones. 500,000 Muslim's may have been affected but how many died? 10, maybe 20 or so compared to 3000.

Side: The mosque should not be built
zainabh(4) Disputed
1 point

The attacks affected everyone. Many muslims also died in the attacks. 1,200 Arabs and muslims were also among the victims, which is more than 41% of all deaths. We know that this is a very memorable sight for many, and a place where many of people's loved ones died, but think about the muslims who have been affected as well. They have also lost their loved ones, and they are receiving anti-muslim discrimination. Muslims since the 9/11 attacks are being affected physically, and their life's are also being very negatively impacted, such as loosing their jobs.

Side: The mosque should be built
ahmeds(10) Disputed
1 point

Isn't it probable for this mosque to make the Muslims more discriminated? America has had these problems in the past as you may know. The Ground Zero Mosque would upset many non-Muslim Americans and may discriminate against them.

Side: The mosque should not be built
shayanne(5) Disputed
1 point

the reason people are being deported is because of the safety of the country. the country is trying not to let the same kind of events as 9/11 happen again, building a Muslim community center near a place that has been attacked by Muslim extremist would make many people infuriated. It would be insensitive to build a Muslim community center near ground zero due to the Muslim terrorist attacks that cost so many people their lives on 9/11. It would put the people of America in harm's way because it can start a lot of commotion because so many people lost their lives in this attack. therefore it is best for them not to build a mosque.

Side: The mosque should not be built
1 point

Argument 3:

Having this center would not only be beneficial for Muslims, but for also other citizens living in New York as it provides many facilities and jobs within the building that would not harm anyone. It was said that if the building were to be built, it would include a mosque, school, and a health clinic for Muslims who are not comfortable with U.S. facilities. Not only this but the center would of been 2 blocks away which is not very close to the actual 9/11 site, therefore it would not bring much hatred nor unwanted negative attention against the building.

Side: The mosque should be built
azzathanveer(8) Disputed
1 point

2 blocks is equivalent to about 100 meters, tell me how that is not close?

Side: The mosque should not be built
GuiM(7) Clarified
1 point

100 metres covered by 2 buildings, tell me how that would be noticeable?

Side: The mosque should be built
ahmeds(10) Disputed
1 point

Exactly. None of these things should be near Ground Zero. Ground Zero is a place to remember the ones who were lost in the 9/11 attack, not go to school or get treated. (2 blocks away is very near Ground Zero whether you like it or not :P)

Side: The mosque should not be built
GuiM(7) Disputed
1 point

Yes it is a place to remember the ones lost, and ill have you know that 41% of the 9/11 victims were Muslim and having a school or a center would not interfere with anything.

Side: The mosque should be built
shayanne(5) Disputed
1 point

They are living in the U.S if they don't feel comfortable that doesn't mean that they have the right to disrespect the people who were affected by the attack. 2 blocks are not far at all and there are other mosques, schools, and health clinics in the U.S that would meet their standards. There is no reason for them to build a mosque so close to where the attack was, they can build it somewhere else.

Side: The mosque should not be built
GuiM(7) Disputed
1 point

The center was made for Muslims, so accordingly, it would include also Muslim workers and the arabic language which no other center has. This was made for Muslims to settle in comfortably in a country where they are allowed. Do you think they wanted to build the center there? It was the only available area with reasonable demandments in an over-populated city.

Side: The mosque should be built
1 point

Opening Statement: “Nazis don’t have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust Museum in Washington,” former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich said. “We would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor. There’s no reason for us to accept a mosque next to the World Trade Center.” The Islamic Center’s location, which is near the 9/11 attack, is inappropriate and could be moved to a different area.

Side: The mosque should not be built
1 point

Argument #1:

The Ground Zero Mosque would be like a victory monument. Since the 9/11 attack was made by Al-Qaeda in the name of Islam, building the center would be assuming that the attacked land is claimed by the Muslims. There is even more evidence related to the Ground Zero Mosque being a victory ground. The center was going to be named the Corboda House. Corboda is a city in Spain which was conquered by the Muslims. The name “Corboda House” symbolizes the victory the Muslims had in Spain and comparing it to the 9/11 attack.

Side: The mosque should not be built
1 point

Argument #2:

If the Ground Zero Mosque gets built, whether if it was with good or bad intents, American non-Muslims will take it negatively. Since the 9/11 attack was done in the name of Islam, the people will not be enthusiastic with an Islamic community center being built near it because ground zero is a memorial place where the families and friends of people who have been murdered can come to commemorate. It would be very upsetting and it would bring up bad memories for the friends and families who have lost loved ones in the attack and even survivors. The result of this is that the people will not think very highly of Muslims. This will lead to hatred, anger, and division which is all unnecessary.

Side: The mosque should not be built
GuiM(7) Disputed
1 point

Even though many people think that the attacks were done in the name of Islam,the attacks were done by muslim extremists, and not all muslims are terrorists and want to blow up the nearest building in sight. The muslims have said many times that the terrorists that are doing these horrible things do not actually follow Islam, but in fact just say that they are.

Side: The mosque should be built
ahmeds(10) Disputed
1 point

While Islam and muslim extremists are completely different, Al-Qaeda did the act in the name of Islam. The people would not be comfortable with an Islamic Center near the site of the attack done by terrorists in the name of Islam.

Side: The mosque should not be built
azzathanveer(8) Disputed
1 point

Maybe not all muslims are terrorists but regardless, the mosque was meant to be a victory monument, to show power. The fact that they had to put it right next to the tragic incident that their relatives caused. They want to show that they have no fear in claiming what they did which is cruel.

Side: The mosque should not be built
1 point

Argument #3:

The Ground Zero Mosque could be a target of attack for Anti-Muslim extremists. Al-Qaeda tends to aim to kill Muslims, so if the community center is built, the terrorist group would probably revisit the area. Another example would be when a pastor from Florida threatened the community that if the Ground Zero Mosque was built at its planned location, he would burn 100 Quran.

Side: The mosque should not be built
1 point

Closing Statement:

To sum up, the Ground Zero Mosque serves no purpose since there is already a mosque 2 blocks away. To add to that, there aren’t a lot of Muslims in New York anyway and they still have over 100 mosques in New York. The purpose can be assumed as a victory ground for Al-Qaeda after the 9/11 attack. This will hurt Muslims extremely since other Americans will not take the “victory monument” positively. The mosque would also be a target of anti-muslim views. To conclude, the Ground Zero Mosque should not be built in order to avoid hatred, prejudice, and racism.

Side: The mosque should not be built